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Meet Assetou Xango

Assetou Xango is a poet, community activist, documentary filmmaker, teacher, and mentor born and raised in Denver, CO. A recent speaker at It’s About Time, she has founded poetry venues in Denver and San Francisco, as well as a storytelling venue.

As a member of Deadly Pens and SpeakOut, she has performed her poetry worldwide and was also featured on HBO with Denver’s world renowned youth team in 2010. Here we talk about the healing power of honest expression and laughing in the sun.


You’ve established poetry venues in San Francisco and Denver: two cities with rich literary histories. What sets Denver apart?

Denver is the Mecca for poetry. What sets it apart is both personal and international. I started in Denver’s poetry scene when I was 17 and was raised by the community. It’s international because Denver has one of the top ranking poetry scenes in the world. We are a consistent presence on final stages and the ideal home place for many prestigious poets. San Francisco may be the birthplace of beat poetry, but no one does spoken word like Denver. Spoken word [is] the core community building tool of our ancestors; we crave that ancestral voice, and you can hear it echo in any Denver poetry venue you choose.

Many Americans are reluctant to face our country’s racial issues head-on. How can poetry help?

The beauty of poetry is its ability to turn something insurmountable into something digestible without watering down its original potency. The issues we face as a county are difficult to look at straight on. Poetry can create a metaphor, comparing something as large as racial discrimination to something commonplace, something small that can be looked at from all sides.

Also, the spoken word scene is one of the only places for the voices of marginalized people. These spaces are imperative [for] honest and full discussions of race politics. The placement of people of color in the hierarchy allows us to see clearly the full issues because not only are we aware of our disposition, but we also must be aware of other’s placement for the purpose of survival. This is what makes poetry and more importantly, the community of poets, so vital to difficult but necessary discussions of our world.

Do you have separate allegiances as a poet, as a woman, and as a person of color, or are these facets of who you are interconnected?

There is very little choice in this. I cannot be partial to only one facet of my identity because these identities are outwardly defined. I am only a woman or black in relation to someone who is not. These are social identities, cultural labels that I have not chosen. Therefore, I have no choice of allegiance because as these labels have been applied to me from without, so has the treatment related to them; both independently and through their intersectionality. In this way, my being a poet or woman or black, seems to be in response to my environment. I write poetry mainly for the empowerment of women of color; I would not do so if my surroundings did not dictate the need.

Do you feel optimistic about the future of humanity?

I think that humanity, like everything else, is cyclical. My short answer is: yes, I am optimistic for the future of all species, but not because I think things will get better and all of our problems will be solved. I believe things will get both better and worse in tandem, as they always have. For example, the moment we achieved civil rights for homosexuals in [individual] states, we, as a nation became aware of the injustices suffered daily by trans and gender nonconforming people. Light will always cast a shadow, the greater the light, the deeper the shadow. Yin and Yang, that sort of thing. We are constantly in a state of improvement and deterioration. I believe this to be the law of nature. We can see it in everything. The older I get, the wiser (improvement) and closer to death (deterioration) I get. I believe you can follow either thread in almost anything you can think of. I am comfortable with this balance. The question could be begged, “With such a belief, why try to change things at all?” I guess I look at it as a sacred game. I have a responsibility to attempt to improve my environment but only because I signed up to play this game. A game that has no ending but needs participants. There is value in it, but only because I have chosen to enjoy it, not because of any presumed destination.

Do you have a favorite TED talk or performance?

My favorite TEDx talks have to be the ones done by my friends and fellow poets: Toluwanimi Obiwole, Theo Wilson, Ken Arkind, Bobby Lefebre and on and on.

What’s the last thing that made you laugh uncontrollably?

I think I was outside laying in the sun imagining it was filling my womb with light and warmth and that the earth was my afro and the sun was the roots in my feet stretching up through my body. This image, this feeling, filled me with so much joy I couldn’t help but laugh uncontrollably. Yeah, I am a flower child.

Meet Amal Kassir

Amal Kassir is a Colorado native, but she’s used to people thinking she’s a foreigner. As a Muslim-American, she chose to wear a headscarf at a young age, intrigued by the reaction it elicited from those around her.

A recent performer at It’s About Time, Amal has been writing poetry since she was a child and has performed in eight countries, sharing her verse everywhere from youth prisons to orphanages to refugee camps. Here we talk about growing up a Denver girl and how grandma’s cooking might save the world.


What drew you to TEDxMileHigh?

Well, I am a poet. TED’s always just been that go-to place for teachers, entrepreneurs, and YouTubers. I thought it was the perfect platform to send out my message as a Denver-girl—someone born and raised here who often isn’t expected to be so at first glance.

When did you know you were a poet?

I was the usual 13-year-old, angry, little girl who thought the corporate world was out to get us. I was involved with politics: I watched the news, read the news, and would go out to demonstrations and protests for social justice issues. I remember the first time I went to a protest and and there were two sides across the street from each other. I was watching the news [coverage] after the protest and it was a complete misrepresentation of the numbers—the numbers were destroyed, they were incorrect. They said one side was 200 people, and on the other side, 5,000.

I remembered just being so outraged and feeling kind of powerless. I went downstairs to my room and a poem dropped. I didn’t know it was a poem—I didn’t know what to do with it—but I memorized it and I recited every single day for two years.

You mentioned that if someone looked at you that they might not think you are Denverite.

Well, it was inevitable. I chose to wear the scarf. The first time I chose to wear it was in an airport, and I remember that I was a cute little girl with pigtails and I just wasn’t treated nice by adults—by people who were supposed to be an example for me. I thought, “this is cool, this is a little social challenge,” and started wearing it from then on, as a political statement if anything else. It’s hard [though] because I always say this: even if there wasn’t an elephant in the room, I would still be the elephant in the room. There’s no doubt about it! Every room I walk into people turn and look.

How many scarves do you have?

At least 70 and then three that I usually always wear. I had to cut down because there’s not enough room in my closet, but I have an international scarf rack from Malaysia, Turkey, Singapore, Spain … the Butterfly Pavilion in Westminster.

You said that you chose to start wearing scarves. Is that something you have to explain to people? Do they recognize that it’s a choice?

When we assume that this thing was forced on a woman, we have completely taken her voice away, and I’m sure from a place of concern like, “Oh, that poor girl has been desexualized by her men,” or whatever. We’re in a country where choice is why we’re here. And so when Muslim women who are on college campuses are wearing the scarf, more likely than not, they chose it. They chose to keep it on.

I’ll admit it gets hot sometimes. When I’m up in the mountains with my family and there’s no one around, you best believe I take it off! Let the wind flow through my hair and everything. Some mornings when I don’t know what to do with my scarf, I will go on YouTube and there is a whole culture of how to do your scarf. Girls will show you these crazy ways to create flower buns on the side, and it’s an artistic form of expression, just like anyone’s clothes or tattoos. It’s like our fabric tattoo, let’s say.

Your family owns Damascus Grill. Did growing up working in restaurants and interacting with customers affect your growth as an artist?

We have three restaurants—Castle Rock, Littleton, and on Colorado Boulevard—and that’s probably where I found my platform for my voice. I was waitressing before I was writing in prose. So even though there’s this weird girl serving you French fries, eventually conversations get started and I get to tell people about where I’m from, they hear that my mom’s from Iowa and they’re blown away! Meatloaf and hummus on the same table!

Food is a great way to bring people into new cultures.

If all the world’s politicians sat down and had all the grandmothers of the world cook for them, they’d be too busy stuffing their faces to discuss their little political shenanigans.

You mentioned that your mother is from Iowa. Your father is from Syria. Do you have family living there?

Yes. One of the first people in my family to get killed was my father’s second cousin. She was 13 years old, they were sitting on their farm, eating breakfast, right at the beginning of the revolution. She was sniped in the back of the head, and fell into her mother’s lap. The farm was raided, they shot the mother in the face. That’s two casualties from among the 31 [members of my family]. My cousin was diabetic and all he needed was one shot of insulin and he would’ve lived. When they put a siege around the city, food, medicine … nothing comes in and no one goes out. He passed away in his mother’s arms.

I’m not sure a lot of people realize that Syria is a progressive, modern country.

97% literacy rate.

Have you been to Syria?

I lived there for three years when I was seven. It was a totally Orwellian society. Even as a seven-year-old American kid, who literally wanted Toy’s R Us and ranch dressing all the time, I was like, “Why is the picture of the President and his dad on every single building, every single bus, every taxi, every school, every classroom?” It was kind of freaky because we’re from a place where like political cartoonists do not fear any repercussions; it’s different there. Other than that, it was an international hotspot. We had people from China and France and America all learning languages, trying to bargain in spice markets and everything. It was home.

Is your family supportive of your poetry and your activism.

They are always like, “You need to write the poem about this and this and say it this way!” And I’m like, “Alright, I’ll do what I can. Give me any requests.” The poetry scene is becoming more prominent but for a Syrian-American Muslim girl living in this period of time in America, carrying a war on your shoulders, it’s special. They can see that and you can’t deny that I have an advantage with my dual language and my dual world.

Maybe they see you as a powerful intermediary between these two worlds that have more in common than they realize.

I think we all have more in common than we realize.

Sustainable Seafood — Adventure

Before reading about our incredible Adventure of sustainable seafood at Whole Foods, I’d like to introduce myself.

My name is Eric Milburn and I am TEDxMileHigh’s Adventures Intern. I am a recent graduate of the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh where I studied Spanish and Communication. In school, I developed a passion for meaningful discussion in interactive settings. I created an organization that students could join to debate, argue, and speak about issues pertaining to the world. Now that I am out of school, I searched for something where I could exercise this passion and contribute to an organization where opinions and learning matters. The Adventures program at TedxMileHigh is an impeccable fit for me. So, as an intern, you can expect me to email you information, facilitate discussion, write exciting blog posts, and contribute to the interactive spirit that our Adventures encompass. Now, let’s get started.

How well do you know your seafood?

Our Adventure with Whole Foods brings us Coloradans as close to the sea as possible (in a land-locked state). Amanda Demo who is what we would call a “seafood connoisseur” passionately informed our adventure enthusiasts about sustainable seafood. She has also acted as Whole Foods’ seafood buyer for several years. From the problems of over fishing to the types of seafood to search for in the grocery store, we left that day with a much deeper understanding and awareness of our where our seafood comes from.

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Sustainable seafood refers to fishing practices in addition to seafood consumption that benefit both the environment and overall health. I felt a little uniformed but was relieved to discover that everyone else was just about as confused as I was. Nevertheless, we were there to learn as much as we could in an interactive atmosphere.

As the adventurists started to arrive, they sat down on the Whole Food’s patio in a pleasant setting that our Adventures team created. While they chit chatted with the loquacious bartender, Amanda prepared for her informative speech. She spoke to the small crowd of curious folk as we all listened intently. When she finished her brief introduction, all the questions started pouring in and the mood got a little more rambunctious. We were surprised to learn that something so simple that we experience so often had a much deeper complexity than many of us imagined.

Later, the best part commenced: the hands-on demonstration of oyster shucking. Each person was given three oysters; each from a different seaside location in the United States. With an impenetrable pair of gloves, a sharp oyster tool, and some elbow grease, everyone flexed their muscles as they tore into the formidable oyster shells. Oh boy, I’ve never seen so much determination than watching two eyeballs fixed on the hidden crease of the shell while their countenance screamed, “open sesame!” Eventually, most everyone got the hang of it and the popping of shells was audible to the entire neighborhood. It was a beautiful sight.

My turn came up as I shuck my very first oyster and slurped down the tasty seawater booger. I won’t say it was the greatest treat I’ve ever tasted, but certainly was a memorable texture. That said, it was a first for many in this fun demonstration and the laughs were priceless memories shared amongst us new fisherman.

The night came to an end on this joyous occasion. Most everyone left with a much greater knowledge of the way seafood affects not only our health, but our environment as well. Another unforgettable adventure ended in smiles and brought the sea to the mountains. I can’t wait to see what the next adventure brings us.

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How can you use your buying power to support sustainably raised seafood?

Check out the MCS (Marine Stewardship Council), ASC (Aquaculture Stewardship Council) and the Monterey Bay Aquariums Seafood Watch program. The good folks behind the seafood counter at Whole Foods are also great resources. And last – oysters are one of the most (if not the most) sustainable seafood option you can purchase.

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As a sponsor of TEDxMileHigh, Whole Foods helped us raise almost $18,000 to support our mission of spreading big ideas and elevating inspired citizenship in Colorado. We were honored to take part in their Community Giving Days program and thank everyone who came out to support us by shopping at Denver-area Whole Foods Markets on August 29th!

As part of the activities surrounding  It’s About Time, our Women’s event on October 28th, we’re hosting another Adventure with Whole Foods.

Meet Jordan Wirfs-Brock

A passionate storyteller who loves finding elegant ways of communicating complex issues—whether through data, sound, words, animation, maps, or graphics—Jordan Wirfs-Brock finds narratives where others might see only chaos. A data journalist at Inside Energy and a previous speaker at our It’s About Time, Jordan has covered everything from gas leaks to garbage to dairy farming over the course of her career.We keep the topics of our TEDxMileHigh talks a secret until the day of the event, so here we talk about ultra marathons, sour beer, and eating ice cream better than anyone else.


One caveat to these interviews is that we like to keep the subject matter of your talk secret until the event.
Well, that’s good because it’s not finalized yet.

Even better. So, you’re a runner?

I am, and I am one of those crazy runners that does ultra distances. It wasn’t something that I ever intended to do, but it was a slippery slope. Once I moved to Colorado and started running on trails, I noticed the runs started getting longer and longer. I transitioned from a being a track runner in high school and college to a marathoner to someone who does 100 milers or multi-day events.

How many ultra marathons have you completed?

I don’t actually have a number because there have been a lot of them. I’ve also done a 48-hour race and a 72-hour race. The craziest thing I have ever done is actually a 10 day race—I’ve done that twice.

A 10-day race? What does that look like? Do you sleep?

You sleep, but the clock doesn’t ever stop. It’s all strategic: how much you sleep and when you sleep plays into how far you get to run. So, for that race, I actually did a podcast episode about it. I sort of recorded all of the nitty-gritty, ugly, painful things of that race in real time.

Were you recording while you were running or you would stop for the night and recount the day?

I would record sometimes while running, so it was a combination of both. That race was held in Vermont. It’s called Infinitus and it is an 888-km race, which is about 550 miles, and you have 10 days to finish. The first year I did it there were ten people who started and one person finished, not me. Then the second year was the same thing, one out of ten people finished. So, yeah.

It’s in the mountains of Vermont, there’s a roughly 27-mile course that you run over and over. There was a home base at a cross-country ski center where you could sleep and eat and get help from your crew and that kind of thing.

So you do a loop every day? Kind of like a marathon every day?

Well you have to do two marathons every day to make the 550 miles.

That is crazy!

Yeah, I feel like running a 100-miler is a totally different sport than running anything shorter. You’re out there long enough that you can see your body start to adapt. You can see your metabolism change, it’s crazy. The first couple days your body kind of freaks out and says “Stop doing this! What are you doing? This is crazy!” Then it’s like “Okay, I guess this is what we are doing now.” Then your muscles and your metabolism and your sleep schedule and everything starts to get on board.

You also brew beer, right?

I do! Not always well.

Well, there are a lot of variables with brewing beer.

Yeah, you have to sterilize things, but actually a lot of the beers I like are from wild fermentations, like sour beers. That process is actually about leaving more things up to fate. I am actually sad because the one time I tried to do a sour beer with wild fermentation, we found some berries and threw them in. The yeast from the berries was supposed to start the fermentation and it totally didn’t work. It just turned to mold and was gross and disgusting. But I’m doing some experiments now, trying to wild-ferment mead. We’ll see how that goes. With brewing it’s always an experiment and that is the fun part.

That’s one of the things that’s so cool about beer. If you’re willing to embrace an accident it might turn into a success.

Well, that is how it all started in the beginning. It’s not like someone had this vision of beer in their head. It was like, “Oh, we have these grains that we left out in the rain and they got wet and now all of a sudden they are beer.”

We also heard that you’re a champion ice cream eater? Have you entered contests or is that just self-proclaimed?

Not a formal contest, no. I was on the cross-country team in college and we would have an ice-cream-eating contest every year. They had to disband it after I started doing it, because no one could compete. It was a half gallon of ice cream and you had to eat it as fast as you could. The first year, I think I did it in a little over 20 minutes. By the second year, I was getting closer to 15 minutes.

After the second year they said, “Well, we know that no one is going to beat Jordan, so let’s have four of us tag-team against her.” Four members of my team basically performed an ice cream-eating relay. They still didn’t beat me.

Meet Meghan Sobel

Meghan Sobel is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Communication at Regis University, where she teaches classes on international communication, public relations, and human rights. A previous speaker at It’s About Time, her research focuses on the role of mass media in combating human rights abuses and humanitarian crises.We keep the topics of our TEDxMileHigh talks a secret until the day of the event, so here we talk to Meghan about journalism degrees, academia, and the finer points of cupcake decoration.


So, as I mentioned, we like to keep the topics of our talks a secret until the day of the event.

That’s so interesting.

That way people really have no idea what they are in for, and their minds are kind of like putty because they have no expectations. So what made you want to give the proverbial talk of your life?

(Laughs) No pressure or anything! So I’ve always been a really big fan of TED talks and TEDx talks. I’ve actually never been to one of the events, but I watch the videos regularly.

I’m a professor here so I show them in my classes constantly, and I tend to use those talks as reference points for students for how to give a good talk technically and aesthetically, but then also content-wise—how you can be eloquent and brief about something really important and get to it. So I really like the idea of what they are. They’ve always stuck out to me as useful teaching tool, as a useful way of learning about a wide variety of things. So that’s what really interested me in wanting to give a talk.

I do a lot of research and so I tend to publish in public academic avenues—a lot of academic journals; I’ve presented at academic conferences … I’m not sure anyone really reads those things. So I’m looking for avenues to talk about issues in non-academic places with engaged citizens that want to talk about important things going on in the world. I thought this would be a good place to do that.

It’s easy to get lost in academia sometimes, because you write for a very specific audience, and it’s hard to know how those idea might translate for a layperson.

Absolutely. There are so many academics that are doing interesting research and such important work and it never leaves the academy, you know? It really stays within their academic colleagues, and it could be so useful outside of the world of academia, but often times it doesn’t make it there. So looking for different avenues is something that I try to do and I think this is a good place to do that.

Do you have a favorite TED Talk? One that you use a lot in class?

Yeah, I use one in particular. It’s given by Linda Cliatt-Wayman, a woman who is a principal in schools in North Philadelphia, She talks about her students saying: “ma’am, this is not a school.” And she talks about how she transformed it into a school from what really sounded more like a prison. So that one probably sticks out as one of my favorites.

That’s what you’ll find exciting about the TEDxMileHighWomen event: it’s really a congress of so many different ideas and experiences. Without giving too much away (obviously we are trying to avoid saying your topic) can we say you are an equality and freedom advocate?

Yeah, I would say probably more so I’m a human rights advocate. So in some senses yes, freedom and equality but really standing for individuals, human rights, especially thinking about press freedom and thinking about how media can act as a tool to stop human rights abuses and humanitarian crises around the world. So harnessing that to change the way we think about some of these issues and in turn respond to them. I think that media is such a powerful tool that it can really shape minds and actions and policy, yet often times we don’t harness it to it’s full potential. So thinking about how we can do that and really can use it for positive in this country and abroad.

And we’re in an era where everyone is just so saturated with news and media—it’s always interesting what cuts through. Just last week that video emerged from Aleppo of that young boy who survived a bombing attack and was just covered with soot and blood and he’s startled. For some reason that’s what made that whole struggle—which has been going on for years—real for a lot of people.

Exactly, and it finally gets people talking about it. You know there’s a lot of debate about the use of those kinds of things—shock media, showing images, showing the graphic image or the gory text—and whether or not that’s ethical. Is that what’s needed to startle people into action and cut through the clutter of Kardashians and things like that and really catch people’s attention with important issues? Or is that sensationalizing it and taking advantage, and that isn’t something that should be broadcasted and disseminated? You know, it’s a tough debate and I think there are compelling arguments on both sides.

There are, and you have a journalism degree, so a lot of those arguments are very familiar to you.

Yeah, especially when you think about human rights journalism and reporting, and social problems, and things like that. Even issues that are close to home: do you show the image of the victim killed in a car accident, or do you show the car accident? Those sorts of things. Even on a very local, neighborhood issue, the ethics are still there.

How about cupcakes, I read you like cupcakes, do you have a cupcake flavor or destination in the city?

So you may not know that you can get certified in cake decorating, but you can … and I did. So I’m a certified cake decorator, which is the most random certification, I think. So I like all sorts of cakes and cupcakes, especially if I can decorate them.

So you make your own cupcakes?

I do. I make them and buy them. I’ve made tiered wedding cakes before, I’ve made cakes with different themes …

What’s the cake you’ve made that you’re most proud of?

I made one a number of years ago that was an ocean theme and I crunched up graham crackers as sand, I had goldfish on there, and it was blue for the water. It was quite the cake. The goldfish added a bit of salt and crunch.

I like that cake. You could make that cake again and bring it to the event!

Maybe I should make three thousand cupcakes, because I won’t have anything else on my mind. Probably won’t happen, but I’ll think about it.

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